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Man Dismembered Parents For Discovering He Didn't Work At SpaceX (2021) - Update
That's A Crime
Episode 35: Man Dismembered Parents For Discovering He Didn't Work At SpaceX (2021) - Update
Jason Connell and Sal Rodriguez revisit the true crime story of the Man Dismembered Parents For Discovering He Didn't Work At SpaceX in 2021. On July 7, 2021, Chandler Halderson reported his parents, Bart and Krista Halderson, missing. Halderson, who was living with his parents in Cottage Grove, WI, murdered and dismembered them and scattered their remains in ditches, farmland, and trash cans after they learned he fabricated plans to move to Florida for a job at SpaceX. On March 17, 2022, Halderson was found guilty on all counts and was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
Original Episode: S01E35
Recorded: 03-28-22
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Whoa, just curious. Welcome to Just curious media. This is that's a crime. I'm Jason Connell.
Sal Rodriguez:And I'm Sal Rodriguez.
Jason Connell:All right sound we are back for a another crime update. I like give a hybrid
Sal Rodriguez:updates. I really like updates personally and professionally.
Jason Connell:You've said this to me. And we were waiting some of these more recent crimes that we've recovered. And the last so many episodes, those done in 2021 2022 bound and determined to have an update and this was one of them. We knew it at the time that it was looming, because only did the episode, you know, he hadn't been this person in particular hadn't been sentenced or even convicted yet so and that crime the one we're back doing today is an update of the true crime story of the man dismembered parents for discovering he didn't work at SpaceX in 2021. A real what would you call this gruesome, while gruesome for sure,
Sal Rodriguez:some tragic click wadeable. And Jason I forgot I had forgotten. I remember he killed his parents. I forgotten that he dismembered them. I completely, I think I just shut that out of my memory.
Jason Connell:Yeah, I saw SpaceX and killed parents. And that was like, Hello, what's this story? And that made me do the deep dive and the right the dismemberment just takes it to this whole other gruesome, despicable level. And then to read it, it was a tough one, it was definitely a tough one, but we needed to cover it. And there is new information. I mean, he was caught. So there's that. But we'll do a quick little mini recap and explain the new information we have. But first, before we do so, a word from our sponsor, let's do it. Support for that to crime is brought to you by manscaped, who is the best and men's below the waist grooming and offers precision engineered tools for your family jewels. Join over 4 million men worldwide who trust manscaped. And with this exclusive offer, you'll get
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Jason Connell:Very good. So back when we did this episode, it was That's a crime season one, episode 24. And we did our deep dive on this thing. And it was a shocker to us both. Because well a what he did to his parents not only killed his parents, dismembered them, hid the bodies tried to cover it up. He was 23 at the time, and all because he was living a lie living at home during the pandemic, claimed he was going to the college is going to move to Florida with his girlfriend, and go work at SpaceX. I have to say this Sal, since his plan was to move to Florida. And coincidentally, when I read this crime, I had just traveled from Massachusetts to Florida. And we were talking and on the YouTube live version of episode 24. We got our wires got a little cross. Yeah. Because I went back and listen. For the edited version. It's not in there. But on the YouTube Live, I left the disclaimer, because the double talk of Florida me traveling and the fact that he was gonna go to Florida, all of a sudden were like, Yeah, is this case being tried in Florida? And I was like, well, I'll just go down there to the courthouse. And we forgot that this whole thing is really in Wisconsin. Yes. And so that was just a little thing there. I put a disclaimer on YouTube Live. If we make a mistake, or there's an error and the YouTube Live, we don't edit it. I just put a disclaimer in the text. And it is what it is so so that is the case, this whole terrible crime was in Wisconsin, he's tried in Wisconsin, and we have information on that trial.
Sal Rodriguez:Yeah, I'm loving the updates, because you know, all of us will read an interesting story and interesting crime here about a watch videos, watch news clips, and then you're like, Oh, that's interesting. And that's it. And then that's it. You never hear anything again. You don't? What happened to the person? Are they still in jail? That's a thing for me. Are they still in jail? Is this person who did something so horrific? Are they still in jail? And you know, what you will often find if you follow along, oftentimes, you'll see a lot of these people who commit horrific crimes and by horrific I mean like stuff like this, just remembering. Cold blooded murder can sometimes be walking the streets again. You would never think and I first discovered this when I first heard the story about this guy in Canada. gentleman was on a bus in Canada. The guy next to him went completely overboard. I don't even you know, you want to use the word like crazy or insane. I don't know if that's so popular today. But the guy flipped out killed the his passenger next to him, chopped off his head began to eat his flesh. It was one of the most horrific crimes you've ever heard. And so you would imagine, you would imagine that that guy who perpetrated such a thing would be in prison for the rest of his life. No, absolutely not. I learned that that very person who committed such a horrific act on a bus in Canada is now walking around free. So you start to follow some of these cases, and you unfortunately, learn that some of these people will be walking amongst us. I've recently learned about a case of a 17 year old girl stabbed her mother 79 times killed her, of course, she's sentenced to a insane asylum to whatever degree or place and now she's out again, they let her out on unsupervised visits, because she has an ankle collar. Yeah. And she can go I don't know, go to the market. I don't know what she's doing. She's out there. These people who commit these things can potentially be out there. And that drives me kind of crazy. Yeah, that's why what the update
Jason Connell:safety mechanism exactly. I
Sal Rodriguez:want to know they're still behind.
Jason Connell:And where's the location? Okay. Yeah, well, this, you'll be happy to hear what happens here with Haldor. Sim, but thanks for sharing. Yeah, it is scary. And this person did something that you can't even imagine and these types of people, but someone who can do this can do it to his own parents, mind you. So what's a stranger? Yeah. And we have to do it early enough or anytime in their life, they're likely to do it again. He perpetrated this attack on his parents one at a time, killed one wait for the other one to come home. His mother killed her and then went to this dismemberment. And then all this evidence was found. In fact, I read that the judge, no, the only good thing to come out of this was the fact that law enforcement was so good and swift in their discovery of this, and they found him and he got the arrest, but the evidence was mounting. I highly recommend checking out the episode that we covered this in, like I said, season one, episode 24, the same title, but we just put up it after. So this is the updates out on March 17 2020. To St. Patrick's Day, mind you, Chandler Haldor, sin was found guilty on all counts relating to the killings of his parents, Bart and Krista Henderson, and was sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole. Good news there. So
Sal Rodriguez:rest in peace. And Christo. You know, what I would imagine, when you go down the rabbit hole of true crimes, you'll often find that good people are killed. I mean, it's one thing if you're a scoundrel and you're killed, that's another thing. Good folk Hill. And I would imagine these dudes are probably like, great supportive parents, maybe the parents, I should have even had, you know what I mean? They're very
Jason Connell:supportive. He was living in home, they believe this ruse. And they, we can only speculate, and we do that on the episode. But eventually, he was confronted by somebody because they caught on to this lie. And it's a lie, sow kids, young people make mistakes. They were just gonna probably, yes, bring the hammer down, not literally, figuratively and work with him? And how do you grant a 23 year old, but whatever it is, it didn't warrant them being killed and killed in this fashion. And think of the ripple effects with the family and anybody connected to these wonderful people. And yeah, it's tragic. There's no getting that back. There's no do overs. And unfortunately, you need to throw the book at someone like this, despite his age, or whatever, because of the heinous act that he caused. But there's more news hauled person will also receive the maximum penalties for the other charges, which will be served concurrently. And so please, shed light on those additional charges.
Sal Rodriguez:Haldor son received three years for the two counts of false information in a kidnapping seven years and six months for the two counts of mutilating a corpse, his own parents, and seven years and six months for two counts of hiding a corpse against his own parents. Oh, terrible.
Jason Connell:So at least I mean, what does this mean after life, they just pile on just because of the severity. It just lengthens the sentence. I don't know, south this guy ever sees the light of day, unlike the two people the two stories you just shared. So I hope that's the case. I hope life in prison without parole mean such especially with all this additional things, but I don't know what's your take on that?
Sal Rodriguez:Life in prison without the possibility of parole. Okay, so there we go. So we don't have to worry about it sounds pretty. Yeah, it's not going to satisfy the sudden Yeah, right. It sounds final life in prison when you have that without the possibility of parole. Okay, there you go. So hopefully, this guy will not be walking the streets among us.
Jason Connell:Hopefully. Now. Haldor son has 20 days to file for an appeal. And I read that he does plan to do so. In fact, he did finally speak and here's what he said. And then I'll kind of get back to that. But prior to the judge reading his decision, he says he called us and said it's not that I don't have feelings, it's that I was warned not to show them due to the scrutiny of this case. I don't even know what that means that whoever was representing him, tell him to like, Just be quiet, like, stoic, I don't know. But what I did know is I read also that he kind of made a plea like, I'm gonna go for an appeal. There's any attorney out there that will represent me. So that's where he's at. He's asking for anybody to come help him on an appeal of which Sal, I cannot see anything being overturned with the evidence
Sal Rodriguez:on appeal. Well, I think in this case, would only apply maybe a reduced sentence like in other words, he's still going to be found guilty, but maybe they won't give him as harsh as maybe he will get parole in 25 years, maybe.
Jason Connell:Or maybe he'll get a different judge, because this particular judge girl I
Sal Rodriguez:just mentioned, it was 17. And maybe serve five, six years for killing her own mother her age, though. Yeah, yeah. But like 17 to 23 makes a big difference, I guess. But yeah. So yeah, so this guy. Also, one thing I've learned about these types of cases is it's apparently it's a big deal. How you are in the courtroom. I mean, the courtrooms can be quite theatrical. So like, if you are up there on a murder charge, you want to show remorse, you want to show your sorry, and that will sway the judge. And that will sway the jury, supposedly, to me personally, I don't necessarily think that a person's remorse in the courtroom should have much of a bearing on the crime that they committed. You committed this crime, you got to pay the penalty. The fact that you're sorry, for it is beside the point. That's great that you're sorry for it. But you still have to pay the penalty. But apparently how you are in the courtroom, your behavior, your mannerisms are all up for scrutiny.
Jason Connell:If he didn't say anything until that moment, I'm sure that he comes across like a stone cold killer, and that's a scary demeanor in the courtroom. Well, then, the prosecutor also stated that during all the jail calls and messages with detectives that prosecutors listened to, there was never a moment where Alderson had mourned his parents death. There you go very unusual.
Sal Rodriguez:They want to see remorse. The court wants to see remorse, the jury, whoever the judge, everybody wants to know that you're sorry. And knowing that you're sorry, can help your case, right, traditionally, anyway.
Jason Connell:Now, the first victim impact statement was from the fiance of Haldor sons, brother Mitchell Henderson, think about this. Mitchell loses his parents just like Chandler did. But Mitchell, what'd he do? His parents are gone. His brother takes them away. This fiance knows them. And so why don't you read what she had to say? No, it's not a quote. It's kind of like said what she says, if you will, why don't you take what she had to share?
Sal Rodriguez:She said that she had lost her future mother and father in law, and that she would miss them every day. She also stated that both her and her fiance would be uncomfortable. If the court allowed Chandler Holgorsen the opportunity to have parole talk about understatement of the year uncomfortable. Really? I think it would it would be a whole lot more than that.
Jason Connell:Well, I liked that they took that stance. They do not want to see Chandler out walk in the streets come home. By the time all that trust it's gone. You think you're nervous on no updates happening? Could you imagine them like get this guy, they probably want to see him get executed?
Sal Rodriguez:Well, because also, it surely crosses your mind. If my own brother can kill our own parents. Could they not maybe potentially kill their own siblings? I mean, what is this person capable of?
Jason Connell:Well, something's wrong with my brother or my brother in law, something's wrong with this person, and they're scared for their own life. So Holden's grandmother also wrote a victim impact statement, which was read by prosecutors, and she said this was her quotes. I love him, even though what he did was horrific. I get it. Grandmother's have a lot of love, much like apparent. She also hoped he would find a trade or craft while he was in prison, and that his parents would not want him to be incarcerated for life. Yeah, all probably true. Right. But maybe they wouldn't want him to be even though he killed them. But I've never actually knew that was the term victim impact statement. I
Sal Rodriguez:was gonna mention that. I'd never heard of that before. And maybe that's a newer thing. You know, there's there's been a movement in our lifetime about victims rights, the voice of the victims, and that's becoming more prominent in courtrooms today. Yeah. victim impact statement. Very interesting. Yeah.
Jason Connell:On our Judge John Hyland explained that on top of the offenses themself, Chandler Haldor sense actions to hide the crime makes them even worse. Ultimately, for the safety of the public, Highland ruled that he could not give hauled person the chance to receive extended supervision. And then he goes on to say this, so go ahead.
Sal Rodriguez:I don't like telling his grandmother that I'm not able to give her the relief that she's asking for out of her love for her grandson. I cannot do that. I have to for this sentencing, ensure that the only time Mr. Halverson comes back to the community is to have the privilege of a burial that he denied his parents. Wow. So he's even going into the future of Yeah. Of Chandler Haldor. Sins own demise. Well, yeah.
Jason Connell:So I 24. Now, you know, 23, at the time of the killing and dismemberment, many years ahead, which is crazy. I think, you know, if I could live another 5060 years, and yeah, he's seeking, okay, down the road. You're not leaving there. You're leaving there in a box? Unless there's an appeal. And like you said, maybe he gets a reduced sentence. Well,
Sal Rodriguez:you know, what's interesting, because just to go back to that girl, by the way, forgive me, I don't remember her name. But that girl that that stabbed her mother's 79 times, was convicted. But they brought up insanity. There was some sort of insanity police, she was convicted of the insanity, which just goes to show you I mean, every courtroom is different. Every jurisdiction municipality is going to be different, because this could have been an insanity plea. And if it were an insanity plea, maybe it could have served 10 years, and then banana medication like a lot of these other people are, I wonder why there was not an insanity plea,
Jason Connell:because there was all of the cover, and the hiding, right? If he'd had a moment, like, he was so nervous, he's under his parents roof, the pandemic, and he wants to do good. And he made up a line and got caught and killed him in a moment of insanity. Right? But then he went through all this other stuff, the ruse, and he had time to think clearly. And remember, he was like, no, they're at the lake house. And
Sal Rodriguez:yeah, it goes into premeditated and all that and planning. Yeah. All that. Yeah, that makes a big difference. Versus if you just, if I right now killed somebody. I have to get on the phone and say I killed somebody, please come in. Yeah, I don't know what happened. Yeah. And then that helps you in the case, versus you got to try to bury them and dismember them. absolutely horrific. Yeah. So if anybody listening ever kills anybody, which we're hoping you don't, please do not ever kill somebody ever. But if you did, you put your hands up. And you say I did this. Throw yourself on the mercy of the court, because the cover up? I think in this instance, like you said, the cover up is through the book out and even more than the action is covered.
Jason Connell:Well, maybe not more than the action, this instance. But
Sal Rodriguez:what know what I mean is that the action could have got him up on insanity could have gotten 10 years in an institution, the fact that it was not insanity, the fact that there was the cover up, and here we are a life sentence without parole.
Jason Connell:Absolutely. He had the presence of mind to put together a plan, a bad plan. And thank goodness, it was a bad plan. It all came back on him. And they were not just they're not off looking for somebody who doesn't exist. And he did it. That's like that would have been the worst case. So yeah, I think he got what he deserves. I'm happy to hear this. Now. After we did the episode. I was like, I was kind of watching waiting for an update. He had COVID before the trial could start. And then he got whatever he got over that. So they started the trial. But I think he'd waived his rights even come to the court at all. So I'd never even spoken didn't want to be there. But he wound up being there. Because he had his little statement, which was It was weird to watch the video with him. It's just like watching the stone cold killer who's it is really creepy, Sal.
Sal Rodriguez:And by the way, you you and I Jason have talked about this on a previous case. And that is this thing, which is new news to me, where a person can decide not to be present at their own sentences. I didn't even know that was an option. I thought you had to be there like Get over here. You know, what do you mean, you don't want to be there get over. You can not be president your own sentencing, which I find quite interesting.
Jason Connell:That was interesting that that's what they said he waived his right. But then there he was, I thought, Well, maybe he has to come back for any future sentencing. But he knew the right on the wall, Sal, but if you're not going to say anything, that's your chance. So again, this guy's just, he's accepted the fact of what he's done. He hasn't shown remorse. And he's probably thinking what his new life looks like. So why even bother? I mean, this guy's just checked out.
Sal Rodriguez:And I forgotten about the brother. I don't know if we didn't cover that. Or it was it was
Jason Connell:not meant, oh my god. When I came across, obviously, I thought there was family involved. And we weren't sure if grandparents were alive. I didn't know there was a brother and a fiance it was not talked about that makes
Sal Rodriguez:something horrible, more horrible. Even worse. You other field, your siblings, parents, your parents, and your siblings, parents, the siblings is suffering. It's terrible. Oh, absolutely. It's like you take a tragedy. How can I make this tragedy more tragic? Yeah,
Jason Connell:it's not as if his brother and fiance soon to be wife and maybe their future family are going to come visit Chandler and present. I mean, that's it. He might as well be dealt with his parents. Right? That's just the path in which you go,
Sal Rodriguez:Oh, my God. If my brother I'd have to just picture this for a second as hard as it is. If my sibling were to kill our parent. Yeah. Could I visit them in prison? Why visit them in prison?
Jason Connell:Could you forgive someone for doing that? This is
Sal Rodriguez:so terrible. I didn't know this other variable of the sibling that really is very troubling.
Jason Connell:Yeah, we only know what they tell us. There could be more we don't know what could be a big family. But well, that covers the update of the man dismembered parents for discovering he didn't work at SpaceX in 2021. A tragic tale, a cautionary tale. I don't even know where to begin. I don't know if the parents even saw this coming. We don't know his backstory. We don't know if there was signs along the way. We just don't know. But it's tragic. And thank goodness judge Highland has put him away behind bars for good for now.
Sal Rodriguez:Yeah, because the next update would be if he got an early parole, that would be the next update. Oh, and I hope that's not the case. Yeah, because you know, any true crime fan who has studied the genre? All the experts say the profilers, they all say that if someone could commit something like this, there is no rehabilitation. The fact that you to go to this level, there is almost no hope for you. Yeah, that's not even me. You can study this yourself. They say it's kind of hopeless. If you can do such a thing. That's it. You're too far God.
Jason Connell:That's how I was gonna say like, is he thinking about his life in prison now what he'll just be doing to pass the time because rehabilitation this guy that's out the window, he's just looking at, like, what my life is,
Sal Rodriguez:learn learn a trade, as his grandmother said,
Jason Connell:Well, that's all I got. All right, well,
Sal Rodriguez:rest and peace to his parents and very, very sorry to hear about us, his brother in the fiance having to suffer to
Jason Connell:and his grandmother. Yeah. Anybody, everybody who knew the parents very, very tough. So until the next crime, my friend.
Sal Rodriguez:Okay. All right. This has been interesting. I'm like I said, I appreciate updates, as the co host of that's a crime, but also as a true crime aficionado and just a newsreader. I appreciate updates. I want to know what becomes these people? What happens to these people? And will they ever be next to me on a bus or on a subway ever again?
Jason Connell:Let's hope not. Yeah, we probably have some more updates in store and we will bring them to our audience and our fans as we get the information. Nice. I'm ready. Thank you. So unlike your confidence, and always use the right tools for the job with manscaped
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