Crypto.com Sues Woman After Sending Her $7.1 Million Instead Of $68 (2021)

That's A Crime
Episode 43: Crypto.com Sues Woman After Sending Her $7.1 Million Instead Of $68 (2021)

Jason Connell and Sal Rodriguez break down the true crime story of Crypto.com Sues Woman After Sending Her $7.1 Million Instead Of $68 in 2021. In May 2021, Thevamanogari Manivel of Australia accidentally received $10.5 Million ($7.1 Million USD) from Crypto.com instead of the $100 ($68 USD) refund she requested. In December 2021, Crypto.com recognized the error and has been trying to reclaim the money, plus interest. Manivel has since moved the money out of her Crypto.com account, shared some of it with others, and purchased a lavish real estate property.

Original Episode: S01E43

Recorded: 09-26-22
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Jason Connell: 4:13:56

Whoa, just curious. Welcome to Just curious media. This is that's a crime. I'm Jason Connell.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:14:05

And I'm Sal Rodriguez.

Jason Connell: 4:14:07

All right, so we are back with another crime.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:14:11

Yes. And a tech, a high tech crime,

Jason Connell: 4:14:14

high tech, a lot of fun, fun ish light, which we like these to offset the other ones that are the heavier crimes. But this one's fun. This is like everybody's dream, or some people's dream. And I cannot wait to get into it. Because today we are breaking down the true crime story of crypto.com, sues woman after sending her $7.1 million instead of $68. In 2021.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:14:46

I'm not because how does that even happen? Like, like, how does an error like that even occur?

Jason Connell: 4:14:51

Yeah, even if it was like $168 What a score, right? $100? No, this is like, absurdity mistake. And I don't even believe it. And I still had a hard time believing it until I read a few articles. And again, crypto.com comes back up because we've covered crypto.com before. So this is just an incredible tale. And I cannot wait to get into it with you. So I'm excited about it. And when I say tail, I mean crime,

Sal Rodriguez: 4:15:23

As it was opposed to wha?

Jason Connell: 4:15:24

It well we don't just talk tails we talk crimes are on.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:15:27

Absolutely. We cover everything from a misdemeanor to a murder.

Jason Connell: 4:15:32

And this is somewhere in the middle. Not sure.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:15:35

Do we know we're gonna find out if it's a misdemeanor, I guess, right?

Jason Connell: 4:15:37

I'm not sure because I'm sure it's still unfolding. But we're gonna get into all the specifics and things that we do know but But first, a word from our sponsor, my pleasure. My flash, tell no, my full support for that to crime is brought to you by manscaped, who is the best and men's below the waist grooming and offers precision engineered tools for your family jewels. Join over 4 million men worldwide who trust manscaped. And with this exclusive offer, you'll get

Sal Rodriguez: 4:16:07

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Jason Connell: 4:16:14

Perfect. Okay, back to the crime. So Sal, as I was just saying, we've definitely had crypto.com on the show before. It was the episode where hackers steal $30 million in Bitcoin and Aetherium from crypto.com in 2022. So again, they have been hacked a lot of these crypto companies, you know, doing all sorts of things selling and which is great. You know, there's a lot of new players in the space, but they are targets because there's lots of money sitting there, right. And on that episode, we got into it what happened with this $30 million that were hacked. Now, we also learned that crypto.com paid back the customers that did lose money that were compromised, which was great. I mean, this is a company trying to build a name a brand. So much so that they purchased the naming rights for the Staples Center, which is the famous Arena in Los Angeles where the Lakers and the NHL kings play for $700 million. So these guys aren't messing around. This is real money sound, but there's so much money lying around that they accidentally are sending 7.1 to someone doing a small transaction. So I don't know. So it's crazy.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:17:31

Hang on this and it costs $700 million to rename Staples Center. crypto.com Center. Yes. $700 million

Jason Connell: 4:17:40

700 million.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:17:42

You're basically just putting your name on the front, right? Yeah, but

Jason Connell: 4:17:46

it's on. Think of all the branding tie in any concert at Staples Center is no longer Staples Center, any concert@crypto.com Arena. So it just perpetuates itself. It's anywhere in everywhere. I think the Grammys were there. Other teams played at the LA sparks that WNBA team. It's always highlighted and shots of Downtown LA so yeah, big time they went all in. But so this is a crime. Yes. But crypto.com also got a little sloppy with bookkeeping there. So we can delve into that. And what we do know is I think some of this is still unfolding. But in May 2021, a woman from Melbourne, Australia, which I've been to Melbourne, big fan, amazing. Had a great time there and one of my movies glow played at the Canberra Film Festival, which is the Capitol. And then I said, Oh, this is amazing. I'm having so much fun. I flew to Melbourne and enjoy that which was probably my favorite city. And then I went to Bondi Beach, which is in Sydney, so highly recommend it. So that's a little plug there for Australia and it's rare. Very, very cool this woman. Thank you. Yes, I saw many a kangaroo.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:19:01

really they're just like walking around. I went to a field but there was like walking down the street.

Jason Connell: 4:19:07

All right, it blew me away. But again this woman may 2021 from Melbourne named bear with me here Theva mana Gauri mana Val, long name, but hey Theva mana, Gauri Mandeville accidentally received$10.5 million, and Australian money, which is, of course, the 7.1 million, rather than the$100 refund she requested, which was 68 in US dollars. And she actually received this cell. And if this happened to you, if it just happened to you, you go in there and you're making a transaction, your account for$100. And you look up when the transaction ends, and you have$7.1 million in your account. What does Salvador Rodriguez do? How far can you get Sal,

Sal Rodriguez: 4:20:01

or any authorities listening to this?

Jason Connell: 4:20:04

No, it's crickets.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:20:05

You know, I love these hypotheticals because you it starts to question your own what morality or like, exactly, where do your morals beginning? Like, I don't know if I might have mentioned this on a previous episode of that's a crime. But I once had received the never ending gift card. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was at a gym. Yeah, it was. It was for it kept going to like $1,500. And finally, I'm like, You know what?

Jason Connell: 4:20:29

I gotta stop pressure luck. Yeah, you stopped. I stopped, you

Sal Rodriguez: 4:20:33

know, so I think like, in those types of situations, you're like, Well, I don't want to get caught, you know, so. I'm not gonna buy anything. I'm not gonna be one of these guys. All of a sudden, I have a beautiful new home and a beautiful new car. No, you gotta lay low. You don't want anybody to know if you if you get money if you find money. If you win money, you don't want people to know. Oh, I would

Jason Connell: 4:20:52

like the guy from Edmonton. Cara. who's who? Stick coins? Oh, yeah, no, no, he was building lavish homes and so you would not tell the bank are crypto.com You would just lay low and to see if they ever found you. That's your plan.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:21:06

I would lay possum. Well, okay, you got to try to launder or hide the money right? Is what you got to throw down. Okay, now we're launcher. Oh, no, you got to do something. You got to do something with it. Right? I'm no no, I don't mean I'm just gonna let it sit. I'm gonna I'm gonna try to hide it. I'm gonna try to.

Jason Connell: 4:21:20

Are you Sal gonna hide.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:21:22

I, the money will be hidden and I will lay low for a while and then creep out and create my slow build

Jason Connell: 4:21:30

is what I would in the middle of the night. Are you answering your door to loud knocks?

Sal Rodriguez: 4:21:35

The old four in the morning loud knock. Well, they knock and then they just burst through. So

Jason Connell: 4:21:39

that's the cops. Yeah. Well, this reminds me of the Disney movie. Blink check. 1994 with Brian Bansal from family what?

Sal Rodriguez: 4:21:51

I didn't know he was at a movie. I don't know. He may have been in one

Jason Connell: 4:21:54

movie, but it was one good movie. He did something. And the neighbors like, oh, you know, here's this. Here's a blank check. And of course, he makes it for a lot of money. And then he tries to hide the money saying this guy Macintosh. I'm working for this guy, Macintosh. And it's like a kid's dream. He can get anything he wants. He's tricking his brothers and his dad. You know, it's a fun movie. I had a really good time with it. But it reminds me of that this is too good to be true. This is the golden goose. Oh, Duffy was in that movie from MTV back in the day. Oh, yes. Karen Duffy, Vijay. But the first thing Mandeville should check in Australia, if they extradited to the US, I think that's number one, checking that she probably did do a Google search on that.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:22:41

But wait a second, in order to be extradited to the US. You'd have to be from the US originally. That's where the US would bring you back home so to speak. Right?

Jason Connell: 4:22:49

Okay, so you can't just commit a crime on flow. I

Sal Rodriguez: 4:22:53

think extradition is when a try you like let's say I committed I understand why I fly to Mexico, then they can extradite me back to the US. Well, maybe

Jason Connell: 4:23:01

they could work with ricl Australia gonna work with the US to you know, punish someone, they can do that for you. So these are things you're going to look at. If you're if your plan is to lay low start laundering. And that's kind of what comes into play here, Sal, because old man Ravel did not tell crypto.com Hey, I got my 100 Here's that, you know, 10.5 currency for the mistake. Sorry about that. No harm, no foul. No, she has held on to set fonts. But no,

Sal Rodriguez: 4:23:29

it's one of those things. Jason and we talked about this on previous episodes where you have to consider the risk to reward ratio, right. Like we talked about for what I serve two years in prison for$20 million.

Jason Connell: 4:23:41

I think your 5 million is what I got from you. 5 million

Sal Rodriguez: 4:23:44

a year. 5 million per year. Okay, so you give me$10 million. I'll serve two years in prison.

Jason Connell: 4:23:49

Yeah, but we don't know the punishment. Exactly. Yeah,

Sal Rodriguez: 4:23:51

that's what I'll be googling. What is the punishment for not returning money that's

Jason Connell: 4:23:55

here when we check your SIR history. So now it took crypto.com, seven months to make this discovery. That is its own issue. Right? Like, it's one thing to do it, they didn't know for seven months, that this blows my mind. I don't understand that at all. Again, this is the same company that spent 700 million on the naming rights for Staples Center. So who knows. But it appears cryptocurrency companies are used to constant volatility in the marketplace being attacked by hackers and overpaying their customer so it's not the most stable. I mean, I find it fascinating cryptocurrency and everything, but it's because it's just evolving. We're still in this infant stage and things like this are happening.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:24:43

So in other words, the money was gone, but they didn't notice. That's how volatile it isn't. They didn't notice $10 million missing. Yeah. Wow,

Jason Connell: 4:24:51

crazy. I know I've kind of confusing this. We're going off us and Australian money but Oh no 7.1

Sal Rodriguez: 4:24:57

million in American money and 10.5 in Australia.

Jason Connell: 4:25:00

Yeah, exactly. Okay, back to it. Court documents show that in May 2021, an employee from the Singapore based trading platform mistakenly entered an account number into the Payment Amount field, which sent Mandeville millions of dollars. So that's a very strange account number to be 10500000. But that appears to have happened. Yeah, that's a lot of zeros in that someone's account number. Okay, I guess I'll buy that. But that's a weird explanation. Or they went to Mandeville, his account number and just put in the wrong amount. But then in December 2021. When conducting a routine audit, a seven month routine audit crypto.com became aware of the costly error. And so is this a fireable offense or just a warning for the employee? I don't know how what would you do?

Sal Rodriguez: 4:25:59

I'm sure somebody got written up. Written.

Jason Connell: 4:26:04

You know, it seems like you've done this before. No. Inside Job. Yeah. One

Sal Rodriguez: 4:26:07

thing you have to consider. I was just gonna say that one thing you have to consider is the potential for inside I always go there. I always go there. I was like, Yeah, somebody on the inside, you know?

Jason Connell: 4:26:16

Well, crypto.com is now going after Mandeville, and her sister. Bear with me here. Another tougher name for me to pronounce. Phila gov vathy. Ganga Dori. Okay, not the same last name. I do. Of course, people get married, whatever maiden names. So they're going after the sisters to retrieve the money along with 10% interest and legal fees. So they make this blunder. They don't know about it for seven months. And now they're coming fast. So this is you, Sal Rodriguez hunkering down seven months, you think you're in the clear, right, you might think you're in the club for three months, but now we're seven months, more than half of a year. And now they're coming after them.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:27:04

By the way, just so you know, if I were to all of a sudden get this windfall, and I were to try to hide it, and I were to try to launder it. I would have no clue how to do that. I would only have to learn so that yeah, I have no idea how to launder money at all.

Jason Connell: 4:27:19

What nor do I but you start listening to podcasts should be podcast. Yeah. Yeah. So so this is a cryptocurrency platform as discussed, which is decentralized and thus the transactions are not reversible. Right. So this is probably playing into Mandeville is thinking. So she's probably thinking, Eureka, this is great. Well, now the company crypto.com Sorry, was able to convince authorities to freeze, man avails bank account in February 2022. So I get that these aren't reversible. But we've seen this happen in some instances where they're able to unwind, look at the blockchain and honor it because it's how it's going to buy build trust in the marketplace and more people would do things. So they were able to freeze her bank accounts, authorities, you know, us by working with Australia, whatever. But she had already transferred the money to other defendants who are named in the case, her sister being among them, it's the only name that they gave us. Additionally, so she had allegedly spent 1.3 million Australian dollars on a property. So it's out what's the first thing you would purchase? If and when you did as you were hunkering down with said money.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:28:44

I think the first thing I would purchase would probably be just a, I don't know maybe just sort of an upgraded lifestyle that no one would see new furnishings. New entertainment center. I I would get stuff that wouldn't be so visible, I wouldn't get the new car, I wouldn't get the new place, I would just sort of upgrade my home environment,

Jason Connell: 4:29:03

there'd be a lot of deliveries, all of a sudden, there you

Sal Rodriguez: 4:29:06

go, all of a sudden, I have a 75 inch or, you know, behind me and, and all of a sudden I get the more expensive action figures all of a sudden, you know, is what,

Jason Connell: 4:29:15

what's going on. But I couldn't tell on this side of the country, I wouldn't be able to tell, I would know that you're sitting on this golden ticket, all these funds, I would

Sal Rodriguez: 4:29:25

never, I think be able to rest and assume that they weren't gonna knock on my door at some point. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think I'd ever be able to think I really got away with it.

Jason Connell: 4:29:35

I'm the same way. I don't want to live a life where I'm looking over my shoulder. And Mandevilla probably we don't know her background. We don't know what they had. They were in the crypto space and experimenting. So you know, they're somewhat educated and trying things not afraid of online banking. It's a considerable amount of money. It would make the most holy man think twice about things. It's it's Pandora's box, like, Hey, this is that level. That's just like, a game changer. Different life. I mean, it's a different life. If you're gonna go down this path, you are now going to a new life.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:30:13

It's life changing. It's not just you get a new car. It's not just getting new house, it is life changing.

Jason Connell: 4:30:18

Exactly. And they're probably thinking, how can we do this? What's the best way to do this? Can we do good with this money? Is this a sign people are going to try to justify it, the Lord has blessed me. The Lord has blessed our documentary Holy Rollers, the true story of card counting Christians. It deals with some of this. Now, this is a lot of money to slap in your lap. But in that documentary we did. We followed the largest card counting team in the country. They were card counters, they played blackjack, and they went in and they counted cards. They work together as teams, people would bring on Christians and say, Hey, you're a Christian, join our team, and then you would be trusted. Here's$80,000. Go to the casino. Log your hours and let us know how you did. Okay, say I'm on the team. I was not. Here's 80,000. No one's watching. Oh, I lost 10 grand tonight at blackjack. i They took me down. You could pocket that because you're only making an hourly wage. Well, people started cheating. People were tempted. Yeah, it happens. It's human nature. Is this fate? Was this what was supposed to be? Was this a sign? It happens, right? And that's one interesting aspect of many of that movie. I highly recommend it. But it's here. It shows up in your account.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:31:35

What do I do? Jason? That's why one of my favorite we speak in the movies. One of my favorite movies is indecent proposal. I love that because indecent proposal makes everybody in the audience go, what would I do? What would I really do in a situation that I love those? What would I do moments?

Jason Connell: 4:31:52

Yeah, well, so if someone was going to pay you a million dollars to sleep with you, I think you'd just do it

Sal Rodriguez: 4:31:56

to sleep with me. Well, here's brainer. No, no. Here's here's my first thought. Because I used to work in sales at one time. Well, if they're willing to offer me a million, maybe I can maybe they can offer me a little.

Jason Connell: 4:32:10

I like to drive a hard bargain. So I like it. Oh, so yeah, sorry about that. So the good news for crypto.com is a judge recently ruled in their favor in the case. And it's going to return to the courts and October 2022. So comment upsell next month, we'll see where this is going. next steps are to be determined we'll find out but I am fascinated to see what can and will be done just because of this space. This that and the other and Mandeville has been moving the money around pathing along to others. Who else will they go after they're already got her sister the crosshairs on her. It was that her plan like maybe get a house like in Florida. Listen, there's different rules in our own country, different states have different things. They can't take someone's home in Florida as far as I know. Now, maybe there's ways that you could if it was, you know, stolen money, and you could prove that but a lot of times if you have a residence that well we can't take that we can take everything else. So who knows what they're doing. They're probably looking at Australian rules and laws, get a house share with people. I don't know man, but imagine getting that call from Mandeville, and she's saying hey, listen, you're in my inner circle and this just happened are you in or you're out like it you know they're gonna find out eventually so you're in or what? This is a documentary or even a feature film about this as this is still unfolding in real time.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:33:37

I would love to see an interview with men avesse oh my god, right? Because because we know who she is. This is all public information. Let's sit down and talk to you like I'd love to hear her side of the story.

Jason Connell: 4:33:48

Enough. Mandeville did something profound and did something amazing with the money to help children or an animal shelter Our sanctuary or just something feed the poor helped cure something. Good luck to crypto.com recouping that money, you could go viral with it. It'd be like Robin Hood, you know, stealing from the rich speaking as another platform. But yeah, you can steal from the rich help the poor, like that would be the level to go and kind of put yourself in an untouchable position and maybe you're getting an hourly or sorry, like, annual salary to help run this thing. That might be the way to go to kind of sidestep it and be in favor with the public. But hadn't even thought about that until now. But I don't think this is what she's doing.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:34:34

She's like hiding out right,

Jason Connell: 4:34:35

hiding out getting the house and I'm really anxious to see what they can do. Not to mention they're going after interest and legal fees. This person, what do you expect from them? Lucky to get this money back?

Sal Rodriguez: 4:34:46

I'd like to see the house too. I'd like to have a few shots of the house. What does that house look like?

Jason Connell: 4:34:50

Yeah, what's going on?

Sal Rodriguez: 4:34:52

Pretty nice. 1.35 Okay, with the US conversion still, that's that'd be probably a pretty nice place. Still,

Jason Connell: 4:34:57

it's probably amazing. Yeah, who knows what area but Melbourne is beautiful.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:35:02

I always think of the Outback. For some reason. I'm always every time I think of Australia, I think of the Outback

Jason Connell: 4:35:06

Melbourne reminded me of cities on the Pacific Northwest, like Seattle. Yeah, it kind of had that vibe. It was very metropolitan. Melbourne was like humming along great place,

Sal Rodriguez: 4:35:19

no kangaroos.

Jason Connell: 4:35:20

I didn't see they're probably there, but I was in the city. But anyway, this incident comes at a difficult time for crypto.com. Turns out, all crypto as you know, has gone down from the high of last year. And this company in particular has laid off 260 employees 5% of its workforce recently, and now they're faced with a second round of cuts upcoming. So you know, the slashing people not slashing them literally. But jobs are going away. Obviously a 7.1 misfire, they're going to try to go retrieve said money now. And they're still paying, which I read, they're still paying on the $700 million price tag for Staples Center, one 700 and cash up front. It's probably like, you know, every quarter, you gotta pay something. That's a heavy price tag. It's a lot of money every time that check is due. So they're probably trying to like, save every penny literally, at this point in time.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:36:21

Also, Jason, I don't know if you're aware, but crypto.com is a big sponsor of the UFC, the Ultimate Fighting Championship, you'll see guys fighting with crypto.com on their shorts. Yeah,

Jason Connell: 4:36:32

I need that money, though. They need the brand awareness out there. Actually, they need the brand awareness.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:36:38

So here's what I'm thinking that, you know, I'm reminded of the time I had a identity theft issue. And somebody bought airline tickets with my credit card and to the sum of about eight or $900. When everything was said and done, I got everything was squared away, and everything was fine. But I said to the banking person, I said, will there be some sort of investigation? Will there be some sort of absolutely somebody on the case? You know, like, Nope, we write it off and move along. When you look at how much crypto.com is worth, how much money they shell out? Not unlike DB Cooper, how much money are you willing to spend to get some money back? How much money is crypto.com willing to spend to get back 10 million? You know, what would they just reach a point where they just wash their hands, write it off and move along?

Jason Connell: 4:37:19

It's a lot of money. It's worthwhile to at least go after this now Had this been 100,000. And it took seven months to find it. And she's like, Hey, I spent it I didn't know I did. It wouldn't be a big as big.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:37:33

Okay, so you think maybe 100,000 and less they write it off? Yeah, I

Jason Connell: 4:37:36

think they go to 500,000 million. And this is that times so much more, right? They won't write this off. And then they have to go in and fix their practices

Sal Rodriguez: 4:37:48

or change their their software happens

Jason Connell: 4:37:50

again, how do we prevent that happening? A rep can't go into any account number and do whatever and now anything over a certain amount needs like five people's signatures on it. I would Yeah. Yeah. All that's different now.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:38:04

It was like an apple one temp who did that?

Jason Connell: 4:38:06

Yeah, exactly. So for the investors abandoning cryptocurrency, the trading volumes have been dipping significantly. As I mentioned, Bitcoin and Aetherium are both down by more than 58% this year. So there's some hard numbers to that, while the wider crypto market has fallen below $1 trillion, down from 3 trillion at its peak in November 2021. So it's a bleak time in the crypto space right now. But these things you know, it all investing has highs and lows, ups and downs. And we'll see if it bounces back. I think it's something that's not going away. And I think crypto.com will be one of the guys that could, you know, have staying power, but I'm anxious to see what happens in the market. But I'm very curious. To see what happens with. Here's the names again. You want to take a shot at these names.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:39:01

Ever man. Oh, Gary moneyval. Yep. And her sister, Phil a golfer off. Sorry, one more time. I know right the La vathy. Gang, Dory. Now I just want to be. I mean, these are not Australian names. I'm wondering, these are Maori, you know, the natives? Who have the aboriginals. But then oh, no, I'm sorry, the Mary's are in New Zealand. No, forget that. Maori Zealand. Are these Aboriginal people? Because I've never heard names such as this

Jason Connell: 4:39:28

very unique name. Yeah, definitely not sure. They could be New Zealanders who

Sal Rodriguez: 4:39:32

moved they could be also Yeah, I don't know. I want to know what these people look like. Because I've never heard of names such as this ever.

Jason Connell: 4:39:38

I'm curious what culture this is. Actually like the names

Sal Rodriguez: 4:39:41

now. They're fantastic. I just I'd never heard of them. So let me ask you, though, Jason. When it comes to crypto, you look at let's say charts and graphs. You think crypto has peaked?

Jason Connell: 4:39:51

Oh, no. I think that was a time to peel me a greater peak. Oh, yeah. And I think there'll be a new bar, I think it is sometimes things go up. And it's like, Oh, my God is exploding and then things go down. And then that's the new norm. Right? I think it just takes time, it sometimes doesn't come out of nowhere and blow up like that and then disappear. I think this is the beginning of what's coming. But it's not taking over anytime soon. Right? Like, oh, we know what it's high. It's like, This is it. Let's get on this. But you know, we'll see, it's an interesting thing to keep an eye on and keeping an eye on this case. And this crime, we're pointing out that crypto.com made some mistakes. But at the end of the day, this is a crime, you're going for $100 transaction, you get 10.5 Australian dollars, and you keep it you have now committed a crime because they didn't just give it to you. I'm sure there was lots of messages, emails, phone calls, you know, you've crossed that line, this person knows it. And they've weighed risk and reward Sal,

Sal Rodriguez: 4:40:53

what is the crime officially is a theft?

Jason Connell: 4:40:56

I you know, I don't know where it falls in the category. You and I know they didn't break anywhere and take it I know, what do you categorize it?

Sal Rodriguez: 4:41:02

Okay, so recently, I was accidentally sent money on Venmo. Recently, I was accidentally sent money on paypal to different platforms. What if hypothetically, I just grabbed the money and and ran off? What can they what is my crime? Is the crime theft? Is that what the crime is?

Jason Connell: 4:41:17

Yeah, there's probably a specific term for it, you know, but yeah, I don't know. I'm anxious to see what happens in October, and then maybe we'll get some more hard evidence. And we could always come back and revisit this crime.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:41:30

Yeah, I'd like to learn more, because I'm very interested what the punishment will be when all of a sudden done. And I really would like to know, what is the actual crime, the specific that has officially taken place? Because this person did not go steal the money? No, they were accidentally handed the money. So that's a little different, right?

Jason Connell: 4:41:47

Absolutely. And if we do come back after October, and there's more things playing out in the courts, we can learn what mana Val and Ganga Dori have done to elude the law and retain their accidental windfall. I'm dying to see how this thing plays out. We don't know it could go so many bizarre ways they disappear. You know, the other people, they've spread the money so thin that they only have a sliver. It is a fascinating thing unfolding. And I'm really anxious to see what happens but I wanted to come here today to cover it because it's so bizarre. It had to be on that sucker.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:42:25

Also interesting that they're sisters. I like that. Exactly. That's really interesting, too. It's a family affair.

Jason Connell: 4:42:31

But that covers it sell crypto.com sues woman after sending her $7.1 million instead of $68.02 1021.

Sal Rodriguez: 4:42:41

Nice good luck sisters.

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